Our guest post today comes to me from a very articulate and intelligent blogger; Bydarra@hotmail identifies as a heterosexual, male, middle aged, kinky, poly, and a tech geek residing in central Texas. There are other labels he embraces but they aren’t as relevant. Much thanks to him for providing this person insight into practicing polyintimacy.
I think his post is incredibly important in the way he describes the ordering of our important relationships- whether they be with friends, romantic or sexual partner, or something else entirely. It echos what Forever the Queerest Kids has always stressed- knowing what works for you in your relationships and going for it.
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When I was young (20ish), I read Robert Heinlein’s Stranger in a Strange Land. This turned out to contain the seeds that would germinate over the next 25 years and eventually result in my abandoning romantic monogamy (after the end of a 17 year marriage) and seek to put my thoughts in order. This was, in part, an academic exercise but even more it was an attempt to figure out how to implement relationships that would be meaningful and authentic for all involved.
I identify as polyintimate which I define as pursuing relationships in which participants strive for intimacy to whatever degree they are able. A sexual component may be included but not necessarily. Some may have more emotional depth. Whatever elements come into play, these relationships encourage us to be our authentic selves. Polyamory is but one avenue of this philosophy. Whatever the model of relationship, the one true thing is that time and resources are finite. As such, some relationships will receive more than others. Some people play a greater role in our lives. Sometimes that’s by chance. Sometimes that’s by design.
My involvement in the online public polyamory community revealed that my thinking diverges to a degree from many practitioners.
I think this is because of my nature. I’m a geek who can be a bit OCD about order and trying to get concepts to fit together in a consistent fashion. As a result, I’ve figured out how polyintimacy can work in my life. A part of those thoughts are laid out in the following paragraphs.
Unlike many who practice polyamory, I see a validity in identifying the priority of a relationship. The terms Primary and Secondary are valid as long as we have some way of defining them for ourselves and those we are involved with know where they stand. For me, these terms go beyond polyamory. My son is a Primary relationship. My brother is not. He isn’t even on my radar in this. A very close friend could be Primary though not remotely romantic. So how do I define these gradations of intimacy and commitment? Those are the key elements for me. Let me stress that these are not specifically romantic. These frameworks should be applicable to any type of relationship from professional to personal; from platonic to romantic…
A Primary relationship is one where I see the other person as a long term participant in my life and vice versa. I consider them in my
long term plans. I may not completely change those plans to accommodate them but I will modify my plans to maintain our relationship as best we can. This relationship is the kind where families exist… We sacrifice what we want when the others’ need is greater. Maybe we sacrifice what we need for our Partner(s). How far we go is up to each of us to decide. I love these people in some context. They’re my family of choice.
A Secondary relationship develops from a Tertiary. In some cases, it may be a negotiated relationship such as Mentor/Apprentice, Dom/sub, etc… Sometimes it may be more egalitarian and organic. In any event, participants have an expressed commitment to each other and the relationship. There is a much greater degree of intimacy that has been achieved over time. In a romantic context, I see this as the beginning of polyamorous involvements. Love is not necessary but it is a probability that it might develop.
A Tertiary relationship occurs when I’ve met someone and see a potential for growth beyond the casual acquaintance. I’ll spend resources in getting to know this person better. There will be a lot of conversations about philosophies, interests, plans, etc… to determine if there is a basis for increased intimacy. This takes me beyond the basic chemistry/’shiny’/appealing stage. If the growth of this relationship is mutual, I’d define this as the place where it has begun. At this
point, we discuss what’s happening, decide to move forward or not, and begin negotiating future involvement.
Beyond this are acquaintances, buddies, strangers, and the rest of the world. Not all relationships fit easily into one of these ‘levels’. Many of mine fit somewhere in between. Some move between one level and another.
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As a closing thought, I think it is profound to note how Bydarra also acknowledges the fluidity in the way that we relate to ourselves and our partners. Our relationships were not meant to stay stagnant, but to evolve the way our personal identities do. I find his story affirming and encouraging, so thank you again for writing!
Stay true to yourself, and be cool, queer kids.






pressure to have sex. It doesn’t matter who you’re attracted to and what kind of context you interact with that person (or persons) on, everyone’s felt it. Somehow this universal understanding of a force makes it easier to connect to people, because everyone has a story.
I think what it truly comes down to is the depth of the questions involved. The truly engrossing things- sex, religion, love, philosophy, fate- are exciting and unknown, they’re universal and fundamental, but more than that, they reveal the deepest part of a person’s self understanding. The way you frame sex can be indicative of the way you conduct your life, or it can be purposefully opposite. The relationships you’ve had can fundamentally shift who you are as a person, and they will almost always reveal something about who you always were. Sex is dirty, but it’s evocatively dirty. It makes us remember that we’re all human and that we’re dealing with similar questions in very different ways. And I think all of this is compounded by the fact that so many people are telling us not to talk about it. Because so many of us have had to find answers on our own because of society’s stifling silence, there’s an even greater sense of camaraderie built around the sharing of these struggles, these heartbreaks, these laughable snapshots and the inevitable comparisons we so desperately need in order to validate our own experiences.
For those of you who are unfamiliar with the term polyamory, it’s helpful to understand its many manifestations. The textbook definition (that is, only if you have a really good, progressive textbook) will explain that polyamory is a state of romantic and sexual attraction which involves more than one partner. However, that’s far from the whole picture. There are a lot of configurations for polyamorous relationships. Some poly people desire to be the middle partner in relationship, where the other two partners are not attracted to each other, but only to him/her/zir. Others prefer to be in a triangular relationship, where all members of the relationship are equally attracted to each other. Of course, poly interactions are not in any way limited to three people, either, and can encompass all varieties of configurations and interactions. I know of one asexual person who thought a poly relationship would suit them best because his/her/hir partners could get their sexual satisfaction from each other and their emotional satisfaction from him/her/zim.
unrealistic expectations of yourself and your partner. There’s more room to focus on building a secure, lasting relationship when it’s not bound by or founded on obligation or a denial of attraction.”
Every parent wants to raise a happy, healthy, well-adjusted child. But sadly, finding out that their son or daughter is gay is rarely “part of the plan.” When a teen comes out, their parents are generally taken by surprise, no matter how obvious it may have seemed. They may feel overwhelmed or confused, asking , “How can a child that we have raised become something so alien to us?” Accepting an LGBT identity dramatically changes the interaction between child and parent- suddenly, the child is the teacher, the one who has come to an understanding of a deep and complex idea without any prior knowledge from the parent. And the parent is suddenly the student, trying to understand the new needs of their child. Sadly, there are still households where coming out as LGBT is not acceptable religiously or morally, and worse yet, there are parents who are simply unwilling to learn about LGBT people and accept the role of student to their child. This switching of roles does not, however, ALWAYS shatter a family dynamic. In fact, in many ways, I feel that my coming out has brought my family closer. And there are ways to make coming out and subsequent interactions easier and more beneficial for all family members.


As for emotional self-image, it’s important to understand what you are looking for in a relationship and how your personality will affect it. Is this a fling? Are you a person who gets easily attached emotionally? Do you need a lot of physical interaction to make a relationship work? Understanding what you want will make communicating and relating to your partner much easier. But how do you learn what your specific needs are?